League of Legends fans are afraid their fan-favorite European regional league the LEC is “losing its charm” and no longer giving even the most dedicated viewers enough reasons to tune in to livestreams every week.

The biggest issues League fans identified in a Reddit conversation about the European competition on June 17 was that there’s fewer and fewer reasons to watch the lengthy regular seasons, especially after the format change—an issue that’s only been compounded by recent Riot Games layoffs. Things have gotten so bad, some said, that they’re beginning to see it as “the dark days of the LCS” returned again.