With Major Orders malfunctioning and bugs still plaguing Helldivers 2, you’d hope the community could at least hold themselves together. But, one issue still keeps people from enjoying all factions in the game—the Automatons, who prove to be way too annoying and difficult. And one Diver spelled it out perfectly.

They don’t even show bots in their new Warbond trailer. Image via Arrowhead Studios On June 8, in a Reddit post titled “Reasons why a majority of players won’t fight Automaton, and you can’t persuade them otherwise,” a Helldivers 2 fan detailed all the reasons that the faction’s unfun to fight against. Despite fighting the bots themselves, the author brought 10 points to the table as to why someone might not want to battle on the Western front. “You must understand that Bug and Bot have entirely different playstyles,” they began, listing how the bots forced players to think less about horde control and more about surviving.