There’s nothing like turning on a new video game and experiencing its gameplay for the first time, especially a game’s first boss battle.

There have been plenty of great first boss battles over the years, but a recent Reddit thread posted on r/Gaming asked which one was the best. The original poster listed several examples that they believe “set the standard of bosses for that game.” These included Valus from Shadow of the Colossus and Poseidon from God of War 3. The latter franchise was one that frequently came up in replies to the thread, with some even saying that every first boss in PlayStation’s fantasy action series was fantastic but for different reasons. However, Baldur/The Stranger from 2018’s God of War got plenty of love for its music, gameplay, and how well it sets up the rest of Kratos and Atreus’ journey in the reboot.